Maybe VR isn't dead after all... - Valve Index Review

12 Aug 2019
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  • Oculus Rift S, anyone? Linus forgot to mention it entirely!!!!!!! No need for extra cameras at all, for $ 400, it’s a good VR headset...

    PhillipePhillipeVor 6 Tage
    • @Zenroy Other way around for me chap, had the Lenovo WMR and it was pretty dire IMO ....sold it and bought a Rift S....a lot more compatibility and it just works. Each to their own though.

      Darron EdwardsDarron EdwardsVor 9 Stunden
    • @mrrip inc. Agreed! and for the money its a deal! but i did notice the 80hz over the 90hz in beat saber, and the worst part of rift-S is the HEADPHONES!!!!!!!! GARBAGE!!!!!!! that alone makes me want to take it back and get the index.

      J cookJ cookVor 9 Stunden
    • @mrrip inc. once in a while I have tracking fallout, but a quick close and reopen of the Oculus app on Windows and it typically fixes itself. There is also a controller bug with the right controller showing up extra controllers that don't exist and once in a while pairing gets glitched. MAKE SURE you are using a USB 3 port for this, if you accidentally plug it in to a 2+ port, it'll have lots of issues and bugs until you move it. Powered hubs also are unreliable.

      David BixlerDavid BixlerVor 12 Stunden
    • @Zenroy what didn't you like about it?

      David BixlerDavid BixlerVor 12 Stunden
    • @Linus Tech Tips hell I'd loan you mine and suffer for a few weeks just to get a review.

      David BixlerDavid BixlerVor 12 Stunden
  • All of this sounds WAY too complicated to me to actually be fun.

    checkmatecheckmateVor 7 Stunden
  • Can the value index controllers be used with the vive

    Joseph Cavender JRJoseph Cavender JRVor 7 Stunden
  • what is the utility of cameras in the front of the headset ?

    HytrozionHytrozionVor 7 Stunden
  • why don't they do controls with a real glove controls?

    Renato MedeirosRenato MedeirosVor 7 Stunden
  • Rfit S was a huge upgrade over the original Rift, should review that!

    William LawrenceWilliam LawrenceVor 8 Stunden
  • Neeeerd. good review though

    Tyler DurdenTyler DurdenVor 8 Stunden
  • IF you don't have any VR headset but you have a powerful gaming computer, are there any VR games that justify the 1000 USD investment? So far, the only game that looks worth it IMHO is Lone Echo which is an Oculus title. Sure, you can use something to allow you to play Oculus titles on Steam VR headsets, but aren't there control mapping problems?

    FeintFeintVor 8 Stunden
  • Hey Linus, can you play war thunder #warthunder with that headset ? thank you

    trinitrotoulentrinitrotoulenVor 8 Stunden
  • Linus, I know someday or another you're going to review the HP Reverb, can you do us a favor of including racing/flight games on the review? I think the Reverb might be perfect for those seated experiences, but I want your opinion

    Sidney CandidoSidney CandidoVor 8 Stunden
  • 0:57 wow a segue that makes sense

    Muhammad hiariMuhammad hiariVor 9 Stunden
  • So Linus wishes for a strapon experience? Interesting.

    andrew szerbiakandrew szerbiakVor 9 Stunden
  • he doesn't play BS on EX+.

    J cookJ cookVor 9 Stunden
  • Damn he has a nose most Jews would envy

    Edward RoyEdward RoyVor 10 Stunden
  • I had no idea that you were into a strap on experience. Not judging.

    Andy AckermanAndy AckermanVor 10 Stunden
  • If you aren't impressed by the finger tracking in "supported" games, just wait until Boneworks from Stress Level Zero comes out on Steam. They have some amazing work being done over there. I'm hoping other game developers will follow suite.

    Chase HChase HVor 10 Stunden
  • When Half Life VR comes out in a few months these should sell better.

    hum bughum bugVor 10 Stunden
  • If this headset was 400 dollars and the oculus rift like 200 dollars vr would be widely accepted and used by now. Vr is cool, all it needs to be is cheaper.

    Andrej NaumoskiAndrej NaumoskiVor 11 Stunden
  • Does it come with a cat? Cool!

    TheStig ZeroZeroZeroTheStig ZeroZeroZeroVor 11 Stunden
  • 3:38 love the linuscattips product placment

    Chris BorgChris BorgVor 11 Stunden
  • And the like goes to the kitten :)

    Grendel _Grendel _Vor 12 Stunden
  • Htc Cosmos :\, guys the Cosmos!!!

    Clash RoyaleClash RoyaleVor 12 Stunden
  • Suddenly LTT turned into Linus Cat Tips

    ItsJustMe MildozeItsJustMe MildozeVor 12 Stunden
  • Blade and sorcery is the best game for testing vr.

    Ecchiboy GamingEcchiboy GamingVor 12 Stunden
  • I bought one and I'm returning it tomorrow because it didn't come with a cat

    DarklingGolem50DarklingGolem50Vor 12 Stunden
  • I *really* can't trust Linus' opinion on VR anymore. As a Rift S, Pimax 5K+, and an Index owner, I can say that I still prefer my Pimax to the other two, though it is heavily modded to make it better (because it is shit out of the box). For example, using the Vive Deluxe Audio Strap and of course using Index Controllers. Also the fact he is blown away by the clarity makes me feel he never gave the Pimax a shot because he wouldn't be blown away if he did.

    HelltechHelltechVor 13 Stunden

    Robert MastrobattistaRobert MastrobattistaVor 14 Stunden
  • If VR dies, so do I.

    Akira HiroshiAkira HiroshiVor 14 Stunden
  • Linus I have to totally agree with everything that you have said, but currently having the Oculus Rift, even though my system and display is now 4K and I fall into the category of someone who wants the index, it's still a lot of money to completely upgrade. The Rift S is attractive due to its ease of use and much lower price, but imo and yours the index is king. A small price drop (Half Life 3) would be a real clincher, for now i'll be holding on to my Rift for a bit longer I think. What about the Cosmos???????

    Hlspwns WorldHlspwns WorldVor 16 Stunden
  • No-one thought VR was dead but LTT. Biggest evangelists before the rift came out then just declared it dead.

    Alex BuckenhamAlex BuckenhamVor 16 Stunden
  • "Depending on what your doing in VR" ;)

    Z/dosZ/dosVor 17 Stunden
  • Hmmm... at 3:43 the frunk suddenly and magically disappears for a few secs. =0

    duked19duked19Vor 18 Stunden
  • During the past years, you should have upgraded your Vive with Deluxe Audio Strap, Wireless adapter and joystick addon for the Vive wands. Such a difference. Vive is (unfortumately) still one of the best VR-headsets out there thanks to the blacks, brightness, binocular overlap, Hz, games, tracking, and decent FOV. (duked's tech tips)

    duked19duked19Vor 18 Stunden
  • I wish I could afford this, at least I have my Oculus Rift CV1 for the meantime :D

    VirjoingaVirjoingaVor 18 Stunden
  • Mouse cursor on screen, duh

    Null NullNull NullVor 20 Stunden
  • Literally no one was saying VR was dead.

    General Obi-Wan KenobiGeneral Obi-Wan KenobiVor 20 Stunden
  • What about the Oculus Quest?

    SpiderUsman1254SpiderUsman1254Vor 20 Stunden
  • The cat in the box.... was alive.

    Everett WardEverett WardVor 22 Stunden
  • Great review, but as an owner of the Vive/Rift the only way I'm upgrading is for wireless at this point. That's the real game changer.

    loktarloktarVor 23 Stunden
  • I don't believe GORN has proper full finger tracking support yet, it has preset combinations of buttons that represent a few hand expressions as you saw. Please find a proper game or maybe even a tech demo to show off the controllers.

    WryWryVor 23 Stunden
  • I liked the Dell Mixed Reality, despite what "Reviewers" say, it was a LOT sturdier than it seems and over 2 years of punching walls full force over and over again it still hasn't broke xD (I also like how it has no limits on play space and you don't need to set it up like other VR sets, as well as liking the 300$ price tag on Newegg making it probably the cheapest 6 dimensional headset with controllers. The display is fantastic as well.)

    pokeface119pokeface119Vor 23 Stunden
  • They are still using fresnel lenses? I'd much rather have clearer picture and a bit more weight

    Alex FlockhartAlex FlockhartVor Tag
  • Lmao got a quest cause I don’t have a $ 2000 Pc lmao

  • so can you play piano with these controllers

    Mexican MarioMexican MarioVor Tag
  • Had the Index and loved it and its for sure the better HMD but the controllers are overrated and the "finger tracking" is analog and feels as such so might as well have physical buttons for each finger, prob would be more accurate to use. I sent my Index back because my PDI is like 2 points wider then their max plus its def not worth $1000, maybe $700 max and the lack of content for it, VR in general. 5 years maybe VR will be gold with better pc's and better displays and true VR content, ill try VR again.

    Joe DirtJoe DirtVor Tag
  • vr games are pretty shit but pron must be amazing on this beast

    KrazyKrzysztofKrazyKrzysztofVor Tag
  • Yeah yeah yeah, we get it, 1000 dollar valve index it's real cool and all... But where's the Oculus quest coverage? 400 dollars, no PC or phone or console needed, it's all in the headset already, no baystations or cameras needed, really good inside out tracking that's 1000x better than WMR tracking, there's some really nice rift ports on it, what about that?

    RustleyRustleyVor Tag
  • Linus been hitting the gym?

    GucciGucciVor Tag
  • 11:59 Great sound bite..

    fNatykfNatykVor Tag
  • HIDE THE CAT! Alinity is on her way!

    fNatykfNatykVor Tag
  • 120 Hertz test without a real FPS like Pavlov

    Hüseyin ArslanHüseyin ArslanVor Tag
  • When can we reliably play games like GTA 5, COD in VR ? 5 years ?

    MrBizaaroMrBizaaroVor Tag
    • Someone was working on a GTA V VR mod, but stopped because it was too traumatic. He said he felt like a murderer playing it. You can already play a few regular games like space and racing games like Assetto Corsa, ACC, Project Cars 2, Elite Dangerous, Space Engine, and a bunch of others. The issue is a lot of those games aren't made for 3D and for using hand controllers and something that looks OK in 2D like models, textures and lighting will look flat and weird in 3D.

      FeintFeintVor 8 Stunden
  • cat does the same thing with my tv and pc

    Kenneth DonnellyKenneth DonnellyVor Tag
  • Why does he need so many things in his pockets

    Jarrett KushnerJarrett KushnerVor Tag
  • Hey Linus! Could you do a video on No Man’s Sky VR! It’s my favorite game even though I’m having stuttering issues. Maybe you can solve why some get it running fine while others don’t on similar setups. I’m on Rift S, 16gb, gtx1080ti, i5 6600k, all water cooled. Any help would be greatly appreciated! 😁👍

    Daniel BeckerDaniel BeckerVor Tag
  • 19:43 he aims exactly at the camera

    Demoin MokratieDemoin MokratieVor Tag
  • I'm still waiting for iris tracking in a VR headset before I upgrade. Having accurate depth of field will help a lot with motion sickness and headaches.

    Michael PattisonMichael PattisonVor Tag
  • Do they all come with a kitten included?

    DJH316007DJH316007Vor Tag
  • Are you going to try the quest?

    Asher GrossmanAsher GrossmanVor Tag
  • That title... Shame.

    josh6499josh6499Vor Tag
  • Nope... its definitely dead. Was Dead on Arrival... several times.

    Ten8ypTen8ypVor Tag
  • I didn't ever think I needed to see Linus playing Beat Saber until now lmao.

    SneakybreekiSneakybreekiVor Tag
  • 3:32 And... there's a cat.

    The Editor AMVsThe Editor AMVsVor Tag
  • It would be cool if they made a glove who can act like hands in the game. Talking about dust tho, you do need to clean your house just saying altho i can imagine that it's so hard to clean a house that big.

    Fouren FourenFouren FourenVor Tag
  • "I still do wish that it was more of a... a strap-on experience..." - Linus Sebastian 2019 (#iheartlinus)

    Playn VanillaPlayn VanillaVor Tag
  • i wish valve gave me free stuff cause i was a failed bieber clone.

    Clanner JakeClanner JakeVor Tag
  • According to his roast, linus likes the "strap-on experience" 😉

    Last RequiemLast RequiemVor Tag
  • Wait what? when did it even die

    Shadow747Shadow747Vor Tag
  • Oh fucking GAWD what a horrible clickbait VR ain’t dead title. VR games have gotten better every fucking month. Take a look at what Sony has done with their underpowered PC. #exclusively awesome. Best place for VR multiplayer. I know PC players that have like 5 VR friends. I got over 100 VR friends on PSN

    deliriumDrew_PSVR #thegamecatdeliriumDrew_PSVR #thegamecatVor Tag
  • How is it for seated stuff like Elite, Truck sims, project cars, dirt or other sims?

    Confused RaccoonConfused RaccoonVor Tag
  • Isnt VR really bad for kids?

    GliffyGliffyVor Tag
  • So do I get an adorable kitty with mine when I unbox it to :D

    James BlaineJames BlaineVor Tag
  • Was the cat included with product? Including shipping? 🤔

    SomiazSomiazVor Tag
  • He wishes it was a bit more of a strapon experience. Linus and pegging LOL

    Steve StidSteve StidVor Tag
  • 15:22 hey there, cameraman!

    taeloktaelokVor Tag
  • I've had the Gear VR for my Note 4 and Note 8, I currently have the PSVR, an Oculus Go, a Vive Focus, a Samsung Odyssey, the original Vive and just upgraded to the Vive Pro. Comparing the newest system out there to the first gen Vive leaves a ton of systems between the two out of the picture. I get excited when I see a new VR come out, I got the Samsung because of the upgrade in resolution to the original Vive. I'm honestly wondering if this is a big enough upgrade to ditch the Vive Pro for.

    Jeff GJeff GVor Tag
  • that was 1 sophisticated test, thanks loved it :-) ur mission impossible cat in the background also,, umm dont think kittens r the best idea when ur a full on techy, mind u ur routing of cables etc is supperb, kittens would die in my bedroom my cablings so bad, i trip over the main 1 almost everyday, do need some of those sticky things i saw u brought in previous singapore video, gonna get on ebay, amazon :-D

    HiddenHippo TTVHiddenHippo TTVVor Tag
  • Not once, but twice i was surprised by the cats How the heck onbox a cat? And "shadow" is clearly a Linus's cat, its knock stuff off

    NurRa JaieNurRa JaieVor Tag
  • It''s pretty dead, Linus.

    vexorianvexorianVor Tag
  • Spends 1000 dollars on vr headset “it has finger tracking” puts middle finger up immediately😂

    Seags 98Seags 98Vor Tag